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Post by Vorpal Bunny on Sept 14, 2005 8:19:43 GMT -5
Hm, I have been thinking about Sesshoumaru's name for a bit, and then when i went back on www.ear-tweak.com and read the manga once more for the one 'Meidou Zangetsuha' something caught my eye that Totosai said..."The fissure is still in the shape of a crescent moon...As you gain in strength it will be more like a full circle..." in reference to the power of Meidou Zangetsuha. Now, the question is...If you think about the meaning of Sesshoumarus name (also courtesy of Kuro at Ear-Tweak) 'To Kill' 'Life' 'Circle' . Do you think Rumiko Takahashi had this planned from the start? Perhaps now we really know why he has such a name? After all, once he master it, he will have a 'Killing Life Circle'. Anyone elses thoughts on this? Second theory: Maybe this is also why he has the crescent moon on his forehead, was foreshadowing how the attack would work at first. Any thoughts?
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Post by Oiseau on Sept 14, 2005 21:41:39 GMT -5
Nobody foreshadows that far ahead. It's more like a retcon.
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Post by Ming-ming on Sept 15, 2005 20:46:18 GMT -5
I don't think she planned it that far but... now THAT is a wicked theory!
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Post by roxybudgy on Sept 15, 2005 23:11:09 GMT -5
Nah, just a coincindence considering that 'maru' (circle) is a common boy's name suffix. Plus, I don't think that anything in the current manga was planned out exactly from the beginning, it seems like Takahashi is making things up as she goes along at the moment.
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Post by anamelikemine on Sept 22, 2005 20:55:26 GMT -5
not really, Real writers plan out their stories far ahead. you gotta outline, brainstorm, and list ideas. and then rethink them, she's probally got enough ideas for another 500 shapters. Besides, she has at least 50 chapters left, she's got to fill them in somehow.
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Post by Chafakun too lazy to log in on Sept 23, 2005 15:37:31 GMT -5
But let's be real, Takahashi isn't a great writer xD She's just cool, but I betcha she didn't plan any of the things that're happening now. In fact, it seems that she's going along as she writes... and that isn't precisely looking ahead xD
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Post by saiyashamaru on Sept 23, 2005 19:50:05 GMT -5
Now that you mention it, that theory about Sesshoumaru's crescent Moon and that attack does make a whole lot of sense. Perhaps, there is still hope in the InuYasha storyline concerning Sessh. We'll just have to see.
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Post by saiyashamaru on Sept 23, 2005 19:54:30 GMT -5
not really, Real writers plan out their stories far ahead. you gotta outline, brainstorm, and list ideas. and then rethink them, she's probally got enough ideas for another 500 shapters. Besides, she has at least 50 chapters left, she's got to fill them in somehow. It could be she's somewhat planned ahead but I don't think all the way...she's not really known for that. I hope that she has a very satisfactoy ending for InuYasha but by the way things are going, it does look like she's planning this as she goes along. Take Ranma for instance.
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Post by echolalia on Sept 29, 2005 20:22:29 GMT -5
Nobody foreshadows that far ahead. It's more like a retcon. Actually, people *do* foreshadow that far ahead, although there are often a lot of external pressures that interrupt the process (like... the show is cancelled before it gets to the pay-off). There are lots of approaches to story telling, and I feel Takahashi's the type who does a combination of planning ahead and winging it. I'm thinking she deals in story beats -- "this has to happen, then this, then this" -- with big gaps in between that she fills out with whatever strikes her when she comes to them. It feels like retcon to me, too, but who knows? This could be filler, or this could be a beat. I mean, she's probably had an ending in mind from the beginning, so why not this, too? ::shrug::
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Post by saiyashamaru on Sept 29, 2005 23:34:13 GMT -5
Nobody foreshadows that far ahead. It's more like a retcon. Actually, people *do* foreshadow that far ahead, although there are often a lot of external pressures that interrupt the process (like... the show is cancelled before it gets to the pay-off). There are lots of approaches to story telling, and I feel Takahashi's the type who does a combination of planning ahead and winging it. I'm thinking she deals in story beats -- "this has to happen, then this, then this" -- with big gaps in between that she fills out with whatever strikes her when she comes to them. It feels like retcon to me, too, but who knows? This could be filler, or this could be a beat. I mean, she's probably had an ending in mind from the beginning, so why not this, too? ::shrug:: I think you're right about that. You could have an ending already prepared but it all depends on outside pressure and stuff like that, that could really pull thongs out of balance.
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Post by fflewddur on Oct 2, 2005 10:53:02 GMT -5
Hi! -- remember me? I'm not sure if Takahashi purposefully planned that far ahead or just created the attack to play along with an already-chosen name. Sesshoumaru's development hasn't been as gradual as it's been the last couple hundred chapters; if I remember right, in the beginning, hints of "humanizing" him weren't apparent at all, he was mainly a tool to catalyze the plot for Inu and the gang. Or at least, that's what he seemed to be. However, that could be argued, since from the beginning Tenseiga could only be used if one had a compassionate heart for humans, which Sesshoumaru has slowly become to have. Not quite sure what I just typed there. Hopefully that makes sense, though I may be accused of "sitting on the fence." Is it just me, or have the chapterse been unbelievably unfulfilling lately? Maybe this whole sword-strengthening arc is boring me, or maybe I lost interest in the series a long time ago, but still! ...swords are pretty useful symbols for the soul/heart, especially in a manga with as many swords as this one, but if you're going to give us some character development, Takahashi, just get it over with, don't drag it's dead, rotting corpse along for 30-plus chapters! lol, I'm done now. And yes, Sesshoumaru's attack is pretty dang cool. Hopefully it'll be used more in the future aside from saving Inuyasha's ass. Like defeating Naraku! Yay!
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Post by Chafa-kun on Oct 2, 2005 14:07:53 GMT -5
Hey, Fflewddur, echolaila! I thought I was the only one still going through the forums XD
Well, about your point, I kinda share it. I mean, Takahashi has been dragging us for like 10 years and STILL no sign of conclusion... But anyway, I know I haven't lost interest in the series bu I also feel these last chapters being just plain... void. Don't misunderstand me, I still love this show, its just that I'm really hoping I can get to see the conclusion of the story in my lifetime...
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Post by saiyashamaru on Oct 3, 2005 2:54:48 GMT -5
Hi! -- remember me? I'm not sure if Takahashi purposefully planned that far ahead or just created the attack to play along with an already-chosen name. Sesshoumaru's development hasn't been as gradual as it's been the last couple hundred chapters; if I remember right, in the beginning, hints of "humanizing" him weren't apparent at all, he was mainly a tool to catalyze the plot for Inu and the gang. Or at least, that's what he seemed to be. However, that could be argued, since from the beginning Tenseiga could only be used if one had a compassionate heart for humans, which Sesshoumaru has slowly become to have. Not quite sure what I just typed there. Hopefully that makes sense, though I may be accused of "sitting on the fence." Is it just me, or have the chapterse been unbelievably unfulfilling lately? Maybe this whole sword-strengthening arc is boring me, or maybe I lost interest in the series a long time ago, but still! ...swords are pretty useful symbols for the soul/heart, especially in a manga with as many swords as this one, but if you're going to give us some character development, Takahashi, just get it over with, don't drag it's dead, rotting corpse along for 30-plus chapters! lol, I'm done now. And yes, Sesshoumaru's attack is pretty dang cool. Hopefully it'll be used more in the future aside from saving Inuyasha's ass. Like defeating Naraku! Yay! I so agree with you!
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Post by saiyashamaru on Oct 3, 2005 2:56:38 GMT -5
Hey, Fflewddur, echolaila! I thought I was the only one still going through the forums XD Well, about your point, I kinda share it. I mean, Takahashi has been dragging us for like 10 years and STILL no sign of conclusion... But anyway, I know I haven't lost interest in the series bu I also feel these last chapters being just plain... void. Don't misunderstand me, I still love this show, its just that I'm really hoping I can get to see the conclusion of the story in my lifetime... For all our sakes, I hope the conclusion is a most fulfilling one. I hope she doesn't throw it all to shit.
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Post by Chafa-kun on Oct 3, 2005 10:14:22 GMT -5
And here I come again, on the subject I've been most hated for... Takahashi has an HISTORY of HORRID endings to her stories (Ranma 1/2 and Urusei Yatsura. Maison Ikoku was nice, but could have been better) HOWEVER, that doesn't mean that she is going to give Inuyasha a bad ending. Ranma 1/2 and Urusei Yatsura were mainly comedies. Inuyasha, on the other hand, has a PLOT. But either way, I'm not expecting much for a good ending On a side note (and completely unrelated) I just listened to the spanish translation of Angelus....... man... if anyone ever EVER wants to FREAK OUT with a HORRIBLE dubbing and EVEN WORST music basterdization, pleaste let me know and I'll make your lives a living hell (a.k.a. send you Angelus and I am and basically any Inuyasha translated song)
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