B-chan
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Post by B-chan on Nov 26, 2004 19:02:01 GMT -5
Well there is something that's 100% certain. By the end of this, Tessaiga will suck!
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Post by Shamu on Nov 26, 2004 19:20:01 GMT -5
B-chan-...LMAO! It's so true! Poor Inu if he can't beat that Datsuki though (no more suggestive pictures of Inu and his sword). As for possible more purified demon Inuyasha if he does lose, all I have to say is...Bring it on Takahashi! All of us fan girls are waiting for it!
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Post by e chan21 on Nov 26, 2004 21:12:45 GMT -5
Of course, I like the premise behind Ryuukossei better, in a way. "Inuyasha, you DO realize you're going up against the bastard who took down your father, right?" "OF COURSE I DO! NOW WATCH ME KICK HIS ASS!" Now it's like, "Inuyasha, you DO realize that you're going up against something that will give you sword impotence, right?" "OF COURSE I DO! NOW WATCH ME KICK HIS ASS!" ;D THATS SO VERY TRUE!! I dont think Inu Yasha will lose Tessaiga, but I suppose it's possible...nah!! I do like the idea of more Pure Inu though...
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Kuro
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Post by Kuro on Nov 26, 2004 22:53:26 GMT -5
Well there is something that's 100% certain. By the end of this, Tessaiga will suck! XD I love you...
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Post by Keroude on Nov 27, 2004 11:34:21 GMT -5
Wow alot of female majority here I see XD
Well I hate to do it, but I'm going to have to use logic and bring light to the issue. I know logic scares many people's fantasys XD
As much as I think a full or pure youkai Inuyaha would be interesting, I think it defeats the entire purpose or the true intentions of Takahashi-sama herself. Inuyasha is a hanyou for a reason, he sure looks better than some of the hanyou's we've seen in ways of beauty (raises an eyebrow at Geneji(sp?)
And hes not a normal hanyou at all (not just because of his sword no) No other hanyou we've seen at this points father was a Dai Youkai. Inuyasha takes on normal full demons and even stronger ones with just his claws all the time. I mean look at Kouga, he has shikon shards and Inu has faced him with those and done very well. (And also without the full usage of both arms once =P)
If anything hes a Dai Hanyou XD...but onto the the sword issue...when Inuyasha added his fang to the sword its entire nature changed from there on I think...its now a part of him. An extension of his own being and power and it only grew more powerful from there on. So always relying on his sword too much well...its like him just using his own power...so I think its justified.
My main argument to justify well..the Tessaiga becoming more powerful is more symbolic than anything. Each time he has gotten a powerup with it, he has learned something that has made him more powerful inside where in the end..is all that matters.
For instance, when it was too heavy for him to lift and facing impossible odds, it finally became lighter when he chose to rely on his humanity opposed to demonic nature..and when that happened the sword forever sealed his demonic nature. (Assuming it won't break again lol)
To gain the power to break barriers, Inu had to decide whether or not to kill the hanyou girl or not. He envisioned himself at her age, and suddenly remembered his very tragic and traumatic childhood he faced....which was way worse than hers...After that he abandoned the whole project if it ment hurting Shiori..(It of course changed) but there he learned compassion...and he grew stronger because of it.
When Inu got the usage of Kongousouha..he had to choose whether or not to save his friends. It was an easy choice for Inuyasha of course, but it was a valuble life lesson that shows has much Inuyasha has changed throughout the series.
Each powerup seems to be a valuable life lesson, and I think this newest one won't be any different. Though I myself wouldn't mind seeing something different. Or I hope this next will be the last, which ultimately will finish off Naraku..because the series shouldn't just keep dragging on like this.
And finally yes...I wouldn't mind seeing him using his own claws and strength more than just the sword, because the Kaze no Kizu gets a bit old after awhile...over and over >.> Some training with Sesshomaru would be awesome! ^.^ and well I still can't help feeling that Inu-Papa is pulling the strings beyond the grave...and everything is happening just as he wants it for his sons o.o
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Kuro
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Post by Kuro on Nov 29, 2004 20:46:57 GMT -5
As much as I think a full or pure youkai Inuyaha would be interesting, I think it defeats the entire purpose or the true intentions of Takahashi-sama herself. Maybe, but maybe not. Changing who he is doesn't mean not being true to himself in every case. He's still himself if his body becomes stronger. He's not choosing between being his two natures in that case. It means growing up and finding out what his full potential is. All of his friends helped him to realize that he didn't have to be alone anymore, but fighting Naraku forces him to just keep growing up physically and in power, probably emotionally, too. I dunno, I guess to me, as long as he can prove that he's worthy of having youkai powers (like what happened in Ogre's Rock... only, make it permanent), it wouldn't go back on what I think Inuyasha and Tessaiga symbolically represent. (I agree with you about what you've said about him gaining power and having to prove himself, BTW.) This new thing about The Ducksword makes me wonder, too. I'm wondering if Mouryoumaru is after this Ryuujin guy to absorb him, too. Then they'll all totally suck.
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Post by e chan21 on Dec 2, 2004 1:19:56 GMT -5
Then they'll all totally suck. And the suck comments return!! Maybe we could name all of these power absorbing swords "The Suck Collection"! Now, with new improved "suck" capacity! TM
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Post by Kuro yaiba on Dec 2, 2004 15:54:04 GMT -5
XD Oh, trust me, the Suck Commentage(tm) is indeed all too appropriate. "Suitoru" literally does mean "to suck," as well as "draw out" and "absorb." In fact, sometimes when they use it regarding Miroku, I have to keep myself from laughing. Because it's more appropriate to use "suck" in his case, and "absorb" in other cases. But still! I believe one of Sango's lines once translated into a very fun, "Suck it up, houshi-sama!" I'm sure that Japanese folks are somewhat aware of the "sucks" connotation in English, but still... it's funny either way.
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Post by fflewddur on Dec 2, 2004 17:07:15 GMT -5
. . . onto the the sword issue...when Inuyasha added his fang to the sword its entire nature changed from there on I think...its now a part of him. An extension of his own being and power and it only grew more powerful from there on. So always relying on his sword too much well...its like him just using his own power...so I think its justified. I didn't see that, but I like your point. It's very much symbolized the Inuyasha is relying more and more on himself, even if the object of this symbolism happens to be outside of his body.
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Kuro
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Post by Kuro on Jan 15, 2005 3:56:42 GMT -5
Well, after this slew of Inuyasha/Tessaiga-age, I think it's even more clear how much Inuyasha and his sword love each other are part of each other. It kinda shows that Tessaiga "relies" on Inuyasha's strength as much as he relies on it.
Inuyasha didn't go down, so Tessaiga didnt' go down, either. *snicker* All demented sword comments aside... yep, Tessaiga ended up sucking.
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Post by Keroude on Jan 16, 2005 12:52:30 GMT -5
LOL Kuro, I swear your demented XD....
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Areh
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Post by Areh on Feb 25, 2005 1:59:58 GMT -5
Speaking of 'demented,' what does everyone think of the NEW and rapidly degenerating Tessaiga? Does Takahashi have a thing for big, hot, fuzzy, black swords or WHAT? -_- Seriously! NONE of this stuff was of ANY importance at all to Sesshoumaru-sama, all he wanted was for his father's legacy to stay... legalicized. ?_? And with Inu hijacking the hilt of it, Inu-papa's prestige is just going into the crapper. >_<
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Post by Keroude on Feb 25, 2005 17:46:51 GMT -5
Actually I don't think so. Theres something I realized about the swords, and Inu-Papa's legacy/plans for his sons.
The Tessaiga was desribed as the Sword of Earth/Living Plain in movie 3, and Tenseiga was called the Sword of Heaven. (And even if you dont count movie 3 Tenseiga was still called "The Sword of the Afterlife" (Heaven/Hell) by the the gatekeepers before they found the final shard.
Well no matter what religion or mythology you look into Heaven doesn't change any....however Earth does.
Its very symbolic in the sense that this world is an always changing place and progressively growing power. And thats how Tessaiga is acting, exactly like the planet, growing stronger and stronger. Thats probably why it has the power to grow stronger.
In Japanese mythology "Heaven" is where the gods reign are and rule over man. Like I said, it doesn't really change much there. In this mythology, humans never enter heaven at all only hell. And hell is much different in Japanese mythology, as some of you might know there are different layers of it. There is a place of it where there is "eternal damnation" for man, but its more of a progression of the soul. When they are "clean" they group in Hell are reincarnated eventually until they reach enlightenment and achieve "Nirvana" which is the ultimate plain of existance. I guess thats what could be described as heaven, so in a sense a soul can eventually return to its creator and in a sense "become one with god". Youkai all seem to go to Hell, and live there as an afterlife and I'm guessing (Like in Movie 3) and people like Inu-Papa live higher in existance in the higher levels of Hell according to what they've done with their lives and are not reincarnated because a youkai soul is quite different than a humans. It has been said Inuyasha has a human soul, so I'm pretty sure he would be reincarnated as well.
This is pretty similar to Evangelion, but the symbolism is all there. I think the changing of a Tessaiga is a progression and really all in Inu-Papa's plan. His son is half human afterall, and therefore has the potential to grow and become stronger.
Sesshoumaru has always had this power, and I believe Inu-Papa's intention for Sessh is just like Sessh's and by giving him the "Sword of Heaven or Sword of the Gods" is fulfilling he lives among the top of all youkai. Living with power among all the demons was always Sesshoumaru's goals it seems. He just doesn't probably realize this is probably going to mean opening his heart to humans, which I think is Inu-Papa's ultimate goal for Sessh. He made Sessh the person who gives the choice of life or death for humans and demons alike. Quite a position.
I think for Inuyasha, he wants him to change and progress so that he can experience human love, which only a human soul can give you. This is an advantage Inuyasha has over Sesshoumaru really. (Though it depends on how you look at it). I think this is why Inu-Papa wanted Izayoi to live on and raise Inuyasha. I think Inuyasha's reputation eventually might send out a message that might bring equality and trust between humans and youkai alike. That humans, youkai, and hanyou can all live amongst each other.
~Keroude~
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Areh
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Post by Areh on Feb 25, 2005 21:02:14 GMT -5
But... I didn't mean that that Tessaiga SHOULDN'T evolve... (is it really THAT apparent that I hold no love for Inu's sword?^^), just that... what is UP with it? *cringes at obvious pun*
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