ladyjanegrey
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Post by ladyjanegrey on Jan 18, 2009 14:10:12 GMT -5
Milareppa quote:
"I've been wondering about that fur as well. I'm not a huge fan of Wikipedia (it's useful as a starting point, but you can't exactly take what it says as gospel) but someone put on there that RT said in an interview that Mokomoko-sama was a parasite demon. Does anyone have any idea where that idea came from? It brought me up short."
I read that somewhere too. Not on Wiki though. And unfortunately I cannot remember where I saw it. However, I got the impression that she was giving a sarcastic reply to a stupid question. Takahashi-sama's reply was a joke, and a good one too!
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Post by milareppa on Jan 18, 2009 14:17:19 GMT -5
That wouldn't surprise me. If the humour running rampant through Inu Yasha is anything to go by, then RT has a wonderful sense of humour.
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Post by concoidialfracture on Jan 21, 2009 20:02:13 GMT -5
"Aw come on ConFrac, you're killing the Sesshy fangirls who salivate at the thought of him with no clothes on! Kill them with common sense, why don't you? ;D " That's how I roll. Why else do you think that no one is coming to the party that is me? I didn't read anything about the fluffy thing on his shoulder being a parasite (from RT interviews, anyway), but I did read an account where she said that it was part of his body. Seriously (look at me, starting a sentence with "seriously"), I'm more prone to the idea that it's a hunk of his father's fur. He's so incredibly obsessed, it would be at least likely.
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Post by Sayuri on Jan 22, 2009 13:06:48 GMT -5
Freud would have much to say about the Inuyasha series, me thinks...
Nah, I'm not buying the fluffy being his papa's fur. He would have been better off swiping his mom's fur cloak.
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Post by ladyjanegrey on Jan 26, 2009 20:28:09 GMT -5
"Freud would have much to say about the Inuyasha series, me thinks..."
About the series? Or about us facinated, fanatical fans, and the way we speculate about everything under the New Moon in it! Hahahahahah...........!
"Their coming to take me away, Haha! Their coming to take me away, Hoho! Take me back to the funnyfarm!"
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Post by Sayuri on Jan 27, 2009 10:49:20 GMT -5
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Post by ladyjanegrey on Jan 27, 2009 22:11:29 GMT -5
Heeheeheehee, hohohohoho......! Oh my goodness...! That was ..........creepy? Hahahahahaha.........
Actually, I work in a mental hospital. Believe me, the obsessions of some those people you wouldn't understand in a million years. It can really drive you insane(pun intended).
Thanks, Sayuri. That really made my day.
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Post by Hiroko on Mar 26, 2009 2:47:40 GMT -5
OMG... *gasp*... my side is splitting. Reading Patches freak out over this crack was epic lulz to say the least. XDDD
Bravo my dear, you deserve an effing medal.
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Post by milareppa on Mar 26, 2009 15:13:29 GMT -5
I was sick over the week-end. When I'm sick, I get very bored. Since I like to think and I like to research, I decided to plough through that website that started this thread.
It astonished me how much effort has gone into something that is so easily refuted. I ended up writing an essay (complete with references and sources to show where I'm getting my information from - I did mention sickness makes me terribly bored) just to compare it to her information. I suppose what shocks me the most is how differently she interprets the manga to what actually happens.
I don't want to - and I'm definitely not - get into a debate about Sesshoumaru and Rin as a romantic pairing, but a fan of that pairing has written an essay to "prove" why Sesshoumaru/Rin is a canon pairing. In other words, how the pairing is written into the manga story by RT and that the reason no English-language translations write in the evidence of Sesshoumaru/Rin is because Viz is leaning on them (especially Onemanga) to toe the translation line, to keep Sesshoumaru/Rin romance out of the translations.
The only reason I mention this is because as a "source" to "prove" this, one of her pieces of evidence is this very website, where she quotes the information, especially on Rin's constume, to back up her stance.
I don't know where this is coming from. Although Inu Yasha is my first manga/anime fandom, I've been involved in sci-fi fandoms for years - and I've never seen anyone feel the need to rewrite real-life history just to defend their pairing preferences... and considering I've lived through the Kirk/Spock debates, this is saying something! Even fans of controversial and non-canon pairings don't usually feel this kind of need to rewrite real-life American history just to support their fictional pairing preferences (I single out America solely because the fandoms I'm familiar with are based on American shows, specific examples being Star Trek and Stargate).
But to see this website being used by some Inuyasha fans as "proof" of the "facts" of the manga is, I must admit, somewhat baffling. I've never encountered this sort of thing in a fandom before. I'm not sure what to make of it all. Is it typical of this particular fandom, or is this simply more common than my current experience lets me realise?
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Post by hanyounomiko on Apr 20, 2009 20:50:54 GMT -5
I'll bet that if Sesshoumaru wants to bathe, he just finds a giant lake and bathes as a big dog. That would negate the idea that he would have to take off clothes at all, and given that they're attached to him in a spiritual way, it would be like bathing himself and washing the clothes at the same time. According to the Profiles book, both Inu-Yasha's clothing and Sesshoumaru's armor use youryoku to regenerate themselves. That being the case, it doesn't seem unlikely that Sesshoumaru's clothing has the same property. It also seems likely that the garments would clean themselves as part of the regeneration (although that begs the question of how the fabric was dyed. Maybe it was imbued with power AFTER dyeing?) Cartoons are an easier concept when you don't have to change their clothes every day of the week. Much more simple with one costume idea. Aside from that, though, the story takes place in Feudal Japan, where ostensibly there is no mass-production of fabrics. Inu-Yasha, despite having clothing that's probably rich enough to buy and sell Kaede's entire village, has neither the resources nor the desire to invest in a second outfit. If Shippou's speech patterns and style of dress are to be any indication, he's a rustic and so would also be unlikely to have another outfit. Sango grew up in an artisan village, but one that wasn't devoted to textile production. Aside from needing a fighting uniform, she would also be likely to just wear the same kimono until it wore out beyond her ability to patch. Her outfit itself is also of equivalent quality to that of poor farming villages, indicating that a second day-to-day outfit is probably fiscally beyond her reach. In fact, out of the four main characters born in the past, only Miroku has the means to acquire fine textiles, and he's a monk so he has no use for them beyond their market value. What ABOUT the fluffy thing on Sesshoumaru's shoulder? The profiles book also addresses this, and says it's a part of his body with an ability to stretch at his will. Whether you want to take that or not is up to you. On an only tenuously-related note, while doing research for a class today I discovered that the white "leaf" patterns on Shippou's outfit are actually a visual pun. It goes like this; in Sashiko (a traditional Japanese quilting technique), there are a number of specific, named patterns used for decoration. One of them is called Shippou (also written as "Seven Treasures"). It looks like this: Now, there is another variety of Shippou that results from combining the normal version with a diagonal grid like this one: The end result looks like this: Now, if we separate out just one quarter-circle element from the entire design, we get this: Which looks an awful lot like Shippou's clothes pattern. (Incidentally before anybody yells at me for not citing image sources I just whipped them together in Illustrator for the purposes of...uh...illustrating my point). OKAY I am done textile geeking out sorry .___.;; EDIT: Fixed the images. .___.; Apparently there was an issue with the color encoding. I could see them, but I guess nobody else could.
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Post by ladyjanegrey on Apr 20, 2009 21:08:22 GMT -5
hanyounomiko:
It "sounds" very interesting. Unfortunately, the pictures are not there. I hope you can fix it soon.
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Post by milareppa on Apr 21, 2009 12:19:32 GMT -5
I've come across the shippou pattern when looking at kimono designs and had it explained to me, although I'd never noticed Shippou's kimono design... or more accurately, I'd noticed, but I hadn't paid enough attention to realise there was a possible connection to his name. I had noticed (in the anime at least) that young Kaede's kimono had maple leaf patterns on it (in keeping with the meaning of her name), and that both Kohaku and Sango have uniforms colour-coded to match the meanings of their names too. I also noticed that Kikyou's grave had the chinese bellflower on it, which is also a connection to her name. What's been driving me nuts has been trying to identify the flower on Sesshoumaru's kimono (even though it has six petals and the plum blossom has five, I still lean towards that, especially since the plum blossom's reverence goes back further than cherry blossom does) and also the flowers that were in the field when Kagura died. I tend to enjoy looking for symbolic little images in the manga art, or at least visual puns. Thanks for giving me one more for the list.
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Post by ladyjanegrey on Apr 22, 2009 20:31:40 GMT -5
What's been driving me nuts has been trying to identify the flower on Sesshoumaru's kimono (even though it has six petals and the plum blossom has five, I still lean towards that, especially since the plum blossom's reverence goes back further than cherry blossom does) and also the flowers that were in the field when Kagura died.quote] I managed to find one of my books on Mon, or Japanese crests, and perused it to see if I could come up with something. No matter how stylized they are, the objects on the crests are shown very accurately. So a plum flower is shown with the correct number of petals. The only thing I could find that had six "petals" were snowflakes. They represent snow, and winter beauty. The shapes were only vaguely similar. I suppose, that snow would be a good symbol for Sesshoumaru's cool personality and cold good looks! However, the hexagonal "frame" does have a counterpart. The six-sided shape was meant to represent the shell of a tortoise, which are auspicious animals. In fact, tortoiseshells with another object framed within, are very popular crests. if that has any significance, I don't know.
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Post by milareppa on Apr 23, 2009 10:02:57 GMT -5
Thanks for that. I was wondering how important accuracy was to crests. I'm going to go hunting for a six-petalled flower now. I've heard about the tortoiseshell representation as well. I keep meaning to look into it... but I also keep forgetting (too many things to learn about). It's possible, I think, that RT may have created a fantasy flower for the mon, to avoid duplicating any existing mon. Still, I'll have fun looking.
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Post by ravenhallowryn on Aug 24, 2009 11:09:18 GMT -5
LOL Seriously the innacurecy of that article just me ROFL!!!! XD
And OMG PORTUGUESE??? *ROLFROFLROFL* *lives is Portugal* Lol the only reference to Portugal that I remember was the reference to the introduction of riffles and firearms in Japan by the portuguese sailors. XD
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