chic0
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Post by chic0 on Jun 11, 2004 21:18:25 GMT -5
Alright, Ive had just about enough of depressing/ambigious anime endings! Im not a huge otaku or anything, I dont watch a ton of anime, but Ive just rewatched Evangelion and Trigun, and I am now throughly depressed by both. Neither of them explain everything as fully as they should, and leave so many things up in the air, as well as the overall messages being kind of depressing, Im just sick of watching animes that end like this. Here's hoping Inuyasha wraps things up nicely, whenever they decide to end the series- none of this gray-area stuff. Sigh, maybe that is the nature of anime, I dont know. It just gets on my nerves after a while- I want a "and they lived happily ever after ending" . Trigun's ending wasnt too bad, but it left a lot of unanswered questions, mostly I suppose about the main characters pasts. Ahh well, I digress. /rant
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Post by Patches on Jun 11, 2004 22:10:13 GMT -5
Well, Trigun's ending had to do with the fact that the anime ended before the manga did. In fact, the Trigun manga is still running to this day. So, there's still a chance that Trigun won't have a "grey-area" ending. And Evangelion... well... Hideaki Anno is just messed up.
Come to think of it, the only anime I can think of that gave me a satisfying ending was Slayers. And I'm talking season-to-season, since they were all stand-alone story arcs. Granted, the ending of TRY kinda irked me because Gourry lost his sword, but... The original season and NEXT ended fine!
I think the trouble with anime is that it tends to get into stories that are WAY too complicated to wrap up nicely. And Inuyasha, unfortunately, has started getting far too many side-arcs to hope to come together conclusively at the end. But, there's always hope.
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therhoda
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Post by therhoda on Jun 12, 2004 16:40:59 GMT -5
IF you are feeling that way Stay far far away from Chrno crusade. I cried for 2 hours after watching the final episode this week. Although You can't say they didn't wrap everything up.
My husband says the reason we don't get the ending we all think anime needs is because we are forgetting that most of us are western culture and these are not from that. I am the type that I want all the answers and I would prefer that my favorites get everything good and the one I despise get nasty snakey type surprises.
I have hope for Inuyasha's ending as it is a fairy tale. That to me means maybe we will get some resolution. But then I look at the rest of Takahashi's anime series and I see it may not happen. AS the manga is on going and the fourth movie is planned. With the ending nearing, I worry.
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Kuro
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Post by Kuro on Jul 5, 2004 6:34:39 GMT -5
Really? Hrm... I look at some of them and I know that they're kind of non-endings (like Urusei and Ranma), but then I look at the two stories I think I tend to draw the most parallels to Inuyasha with (Maison Ikkoku and Firetripper), and don't worry about the ending at all. Given the nature of UY and Ranma, those two stories which didn't actually NEED complete resolution (although it would have been nice).
Maison didn't need a complete resolution, either, but it had a WONDERFUL ending. Takahashi definitely can pull off some very satisfying endings to her stories, she just doesn't do it all the time.
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Inugurl7354
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Post by Inugurl7354 on Nov 28, 2004 20:15:10 GMT -5
:)Yes, me too! I hope that Inu-Yasha will slightly go on forever. The only thing I wish would come true is if AS would put it on earlier. Inu-Yasha cheers me up & makes me feel confident in life.
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Post by concoidialfracture on Aug 20, 2008 12:45:25 GMT -5
I have to say, I was one of those who thought that the manga might not end up very well, but I feel like I got that "fairytale" ending that I was hoping for. Anyone else?
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Sayuri
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Post by Sayuri on Dec 22, 2008 10:07:09 GMT -5
I thought the ending was pretty bland, actually. The only satisfaction I got was that Inuyasha and Kagome finally got together.
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Post by concoidialfracture on Dec 23, 2008 19:43:35 GMT -5
Aren't fairy-tale endings usually pretty bland? At the very least, we got to see Naraku go down in a firey ball of doom.
I have to commend Takahashi for trying. She may have pleased me, but she most likely pissed off a whole load of people in the process of the epilogue. Epilogues are EXTREMELY hard to do for how often people disagree with them.
Just as JK Rowling. ;D
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Sayuri
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Post by Sayuri on Dec 23, 2008 20:41:01 GMT -5
Seriously, if all it took to make the Shikon Jewel to go away was to say "Go away!", why did it take 500+ chapters to figure that out?
I'm not pissed off at the ending, just disappointed.
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Post by concoidialfracture on Dec 23, 2008 22:13:00 GMT -5
Well, because all the people who wanted it were typically those who DIDN'T want it to go away. I don't know, I was pretty surprised about the go-away wish.
Not to say it wasn't disappointing, but it certainly wasn't expected.
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ladyjanegrey
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Post by ladyjanegrey on Dec 24, 2008 16:21:34 GMT -5
True. The ones who are trying to "destroy" it are so busy trying to figure out what to do, that they seem to just run around in circles. But often the simplest solution is the one people don't see. I think it came to the point that Kagome got tied of the whole mess, and just decided to get rid of it, no matter what. Also, since she was the least invoved with it, she could see the answer, "from the outside" so to speak. (No pun intended.)
I wasn't disappointed; but then I prefer "happily ever afters." There's too much unhappiness in the real world, today. I need "fixes" in my fiction!
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Post by concoidialfracture on Dec 24, 2008 20:29:12 GMT -5
Occam's Razor, you know. The simplest explanation is usually the best, and I guess you can't get any simpler than "go away". At least... I couldn't.
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Post by Inu-papa on Dec 25, 2008 10:24:11 GMT -5
Occam's Razor, you know. The simplest explanation is usually the best, and I guess you can't get any simpler than "go away". At least... I couldn't. Not to get scientifically anal, but that's not actually a proper application of Occam's Razor. ^_^* Occam's Razor states "Do not multiply entities beyond necessity", which is usually paraphrased as "The simplest explanation is usually right." In this case "Simple" doesn't necessarily mean "obvious" or "easiest to understand", but means the explanation with the fewest number of steps or interactions that still leads to the desired result. In chemistry, it's like if you mixed compound A and B and ended up with C and have multiple equations for how C could have resulted from A and B, the equation with the fewest steps is probably right. In everyday practice, if you say "The home team beat their rivals because I was wearing my lucky socks," because it is entirely feasible for this to occur without the lucky socks being thrown into the equation, the lucky socks can be "cut out" of the picture, leaving you with a simpler, and likely more correct explanation. That's what is meant by "do not multiply entities beyond necessity." So, in Kagome's case, there was only one step to begin with, which was "make a wish on the jewel". From the vantage point of Occam's Razor, the content of the wish is irrelevant. It would only come into play if Kagome had to choose betwen "make a wish on the jewel" and "stand on her head while drinking a glass of orange juice while singing 'Never Gonna Give You Up' and then make a wish on the jewel."
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ladyjanegrey
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Post by ladyjanegrey on Dec 25, 2008 15:57:26 GMT -5
"Aaaaahhhhhh...........! BRAIN FREEZE!" Heeheeheeheehee!
Oh, well, simple is, simple, is............ simple! It's not like it was rocket science, you know.
Sorry, too much 'nog. Hahahahaha.......
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Post by concoidialfracture on Dec 25, 2008 22:26:06 GMT -5
Occam's Razor, you know. The simplest explanation is usually the best, and I guess you can't get any simpler than "go away". At least... I couldn't. Not to get scientifically anal, but that's not actually a proper application of Occam's Razor. ^_^* Occam's Razor states "Do not multiply entities beyond necessity", which is usually paraphrased as "The simplest explanation is usually right." In this case "Simple" doesn't necessarily mean "obvious" or "easiest to understand", but means the explanation with the fewest number of steps or interactions that still leads to the desired result. In chemistry, it's like if you mixed compound A and B and ended up with C and have multiple equations for how C could have resulted from A and B, the equation with the fewest steps is probably right. In everyday practice, if you say "The home team beat their rivals because I was wearing my lucky socks," because it is entirely feasible for this to occur without the lucky socks being thrown into the equation, the lucky socks can be "cut out" of the picture, leaving you with a simpler, and likely more correct explanation. That's what is meant by "do not multiply entities beyond necessity." So, in Kagome's case, there was only one step to begin with, which was "make a wish on the jewel". From the vantage point of Occam's Razor, the content of the wish is irrelevant. It would only come into play if Kagome had to choose betwen "make a wish on the jewel" and "stand on her head while drinking a glass of orange juice while singing 'Never Gonna Give You Up' and then make a wish on the jewel." That's interesting. I've never had someone insert my foot into my mouth for me. I suppose I should start taking more responsibility for what I say, or maybe just quit talking altogether. Boy do I hate looking like the moron that I am.
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